I Think We Are Getting Another Jeep

"Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind)
11/03/2016 at 00:39 • Filed to: Jeep

And I think it’s going to be positioned BELOW the Renegade. I’m driving past the Jeep dealership and I see rows and rows of Patriots (not Compasses). I look up Patriot sales and they are above 100,000 units YTD. Renegade sales are going to break 100,000 units at the end of the year but the thing is that the Patriot has been shooting up in volume for the last few years and the Renegade didnt really disrupt Patriot or Compass sales, it just brought in more Jeep buyers.

I sincerely believe there is an even cuter Jeep coming that will be called the Patriot and will pretty much be an FCA competitor to the Kia Soul (which has a seriously sweet niche even with all the new subcompact CUVs on the market). Here’s what Im thinking:

Patriot : 163" x 71" x 63", for $16,000. Same dimensions as the Kia Soul. Pretty much acting as everything FCA wanted from the Dodge Dart.

Renegade : 167" x 74" x 67", for $19,000 (dropping the 1.4L, FWD, Manual option). Renegade being more off-roady.

Compass : 175" x 71" x 65", for $21,500. Compass being like a minature Grand Cherokee.

Wrangler : 164-185" x 74" x 73", for around $24,000.

Cherokee : 182" x 73-75” x 66-68”, for $25,000 (pretty much turning the Latitudes into the base models and moving the Sport trim to an appearance package).

Jeep Pickup Truck : $26,000. I think this will be the next best thing to a Wrangler in Jeep’s lineup when it comes to off-roadability. I’d rather see it named Liberty over Comanche though.

Grand Cherokee : 190-191” x 77" x 68-69", for $30,000.

Wagoneer (3-row): 201" x 76" x 71", for $37,500.

Grand Wagoneer : I still think this will be a 2-row, premium-feel, feature-laden, and off-road ready model that will start around $58,000 if not higher and be a budget Range Rover. Pretty much something above a Grand Cherokee Summit that’s built on the Wagoneer’s extended wheelbase platform. I can also see a 4-seater luxury version coming under the “Summit” designation and officially making Summit a subbrand like Denali or the upcoming Avenir-line.

Thats a lot of five seater CUVs coming from Jeep, and I bet 5 out of 9 will sale over 160,000 annual units in the US before 2020. Within the remaining four models 3 of them will aim for 90,000 annual sales in the same time period and the Grand Wagoneer will aim for 30k.

Thats 1.1 Million Jeeps sold every year in just the US. I also think that’s the limit for Jeep sales. And that’s including gas prices rising and FCA recalling Jeeps every 3 months.

DISCUSSION (11)

Land_Yacht_225 > Wobbles the Mind
11/03/2016 at 01:38

Just as long as they do SOMETHING about the Patriot and Compass.

I legitimately fear for my safety driving either one at work because, especially with the CVT, they don’t even have enough power to get out of their own way. Legitimately the only cars I have ever driven where there is literally nothing left to give at 65mph on the highway. Boot the throttle and red line that sucker and it will still take you nearly 15 seconds to reach 75.

Stapleface > Wobbles the Mind
11/03/2016 at 07:02

I’m hoping for a 3/4 version of the Wrangler. Something like the Jimmy/Samurai.

Kinja'd!!!

But realistically you’re probably correct. It will be a CUV similar in size to the Soul.

hike > Wobbles the Mind
11/03/2016 at 07:55

So the Patriot and Compass exist just the same space currently, but only the Compass is getting replaced. The Patriot and Compass sell so well currently because with the cheap base pricing and incentives, it’s the perfect way to flip a used car customer into a bee car which will likely have better financing. I don’t think we’d get a Jeep smaller than the Renegade unless fuel prices shoot up again.

Milky > Wobbles the Mind
11/03/2016 at 09:28

Jeep gives away the compass/patriot right now, its certainly helping sales. Co-worker turned in his old FCA lease and got a compass for $130/month. Stupid cheap for a new car.

Ojitheunseen > Land_Yacht_225
11/03/2016 at 10:28

You should take yours in for servicing if that’s the case. They released a firmware update some time ago that ramps up acceleration quite a bit.

for Michigan > Milky
11/03/2016 at 11:18

That’s less than the payment on my 10-year-old Mazda. I’d wonder how Jeep makes any money, but I’d have to imagine that any investment Chrysler made in developing those models was recouped long ago and any new sales they make are just icing on the cake.

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > Land_Yacht_225
11/03/2016 at 14:11

My accord is about that slow. It’s also an economy car from the late 90's. That’s broken. FCA products are literally cancer. That being said S600 acceleration tends to skew your feeling of acceleration a bit.

Land_Yacht_225 > V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
11/03/2016 at 15:00

Good god, you still have the Accord!? I thought you traded it in on the LS400? Or left it in a field when you bought the LS400.

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > Land_Yacht_225
11/03/2016 at 19:27

I still have it lol. It’s more sentimental than anything really, although I’m looking for a Miata or Acura Legend to replace it with.

Land_Yacht_225 > V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
11/03/2016 at 22:42

6-speed Legend coupe > Miata

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > Land_Yacht_225
11/03/2016 at 23:42

Looking for a sedan. It’s tough to find a clean example but they’re out there.